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Postby arjaybee » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:36 pm

According to RoastMaster, I've got 40 SR500 roasts under my belt as of today. I'm pretty happy with the technique I've developed so I thought I'd share it.

I'm not having as much of a problem with charring as I did the first few roasts, btw. I wonder if it runs hotter when it is new than it does after it's broken in a bit?

The main thing I've learned is that there isn't a simple time based formula I can use. Every bean and even every roast is a little different. Maybe this is obvious to others, but most of the roasters for sale seem to have an automatic mode or time based instructions or something else that implies you can get consistent results from consistent behavior. I've only found that to be true in a very broad sense.

So.. That said, here's my roasting technique:

I roast 4 ounce batches and start on low heat with high fan. I watch the beans very closely at first to get a sense for how well they'll move. Most of the time I just watch, but in some cases if the beans are not moving at all I'll use the tipping technique (about 30 degrees alternating front and both sides) for about a minute to get them dried out and moving a bit. I'll tip maybe 1 in 4 roasts.

I let it sit at low heat until the beans have reached a consistent brown (the stage before first crack in the SM color chart).

While waiting for a consistent color, I watch the movement of the beans. I want to keep them moving, but not too aggressively. As a rule of thumb, I keep an eye on a bean when it appears on top and do a slow count as it shifts down the side of the glass until it disappears behind the metal band. I try to keep it around 5. Usually this means I gradually drop the fan from full to about the 2/3 speed mark. Sometimes more, sometimes less. I don't think I've ever dropped below the half speed mark.

Reaching the desired consistency of color can take anywhere from 3-5 minutes. When I get there, I flip the heat off, then back on to medium which resets the timer to 5.9 and is a lot quicker than messing with the + + 6sec button.

First crack usually starts within 30 seconds of bumping the heat to medium. I continue to watch the speed and modify the fan as necessary during first crack.

If I am aiming for City, I wait until it's been about 20 seconds since I heard the last crack and then hit cool and bump the fan back to high.

If City+, I wait 60-90 seconds after the final crack depending on how consistent the color is.

For Full City, at 90 seconds, I bump the heat to high and listen carefully. As soon as I hear the first snap of 2nd crack I hit cool and bump the fan to high. This is usually within 30 seconds of bumping the heat.

For Full City+, I start timing when I hear 2 snaps in succession and hit cool and bump the fan after 20 seconds.

Hopefully this will be useful to someone.

Edit: added the batch size to above.

Bob
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Re: SR500 owners - get in here!

Postby bigbells » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:59 pm

Next time a new SR500 owner has questions I'm just going to point them to your post, Bob. That's a well-described methodology.
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Re: SR500 owners - get in here!

Postby Barrie » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:17 pm

A very entertaining account of how you go about things. I am still thinking about that bean you followed down the side of the roaster. Exactly how fast were you counting? Just kidding. :)
I have moved on to a Gene Cafe but that has its own characteristics, one of which is that it is difficult to hear the cracks. A great machine, though.
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Re: SR500 owners - get in here!

Postby arjaybee » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:35 pm

Barrie wrote:A very entertaining account of how you go about things. I am still thinking about that bean you followed down the side of the roaster. Exactly how fast were you counting? Just kidding. :)
I have moved on to a Gene Cafe but that has its own characteristics, one of which is that it is difficult to hear the cracks. A great machine, though.
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one Mississippi, two Mississippi...

Is that a universal slow count or something regional from my childhood?

It does seem that each machine has its quirks. I'll stick with the SR500 for now, but I expect I'll eventually move up to a drum roaster.
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Re: SR500 owners - get in here!

Postby bigbells » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:02 pm

arjaybee wrote:
one Mississippi, two Mississippi...

Is that a universal slow count or something regional from my childhood?
That's universal... used for hide and seek, and for touch football. We also used one one thousand, two one thousand...
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Re: SR500 owners - get in here!

Postby Mark » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:08 pm

arjaybee what is your batch size?
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Re: SR500 owners - get in here!

Postby arjaybee » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:54 pm

Mark wrote:arjaybee what is your batch size?


I use 4 ounces at a time.
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Re: SR500 owners - get in here!

Postby costa » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:06 pm

Hi I am having trouble with my SR500. I am having temperature issues, I've been using it for about 6 months and now my roast are just taking forever. I've kept good records and when I first started my roast were between 5-8 minutes with good control over them. Now the last couple of roast have been 9-10, finally I've became concern when I had it on high heat today and the roast took over 12 minutes!!! Has anodyne had this issue before? Do i need to take it apart to clean it? Any help would be appreciate. Although this would be a great excuses to tell my wife so I can get a drum roaster!
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Re: SR500 owners - get in here!

Postby GenericMale » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:50 pm

Chaff often gets sucked into the bottom of the roaster and ends up getting stuck in the fan intake. If you go to my blog that has a tear down documented here http://www.roastgeek.com/wordpress/2011/07/18/freshroast-sr500-teardown-part-1/

It will show you the screws to take it apart and what you will see inside. Be careful with the top piece because it won't be held in very well once the screws are taken out.

If you have a large shop vac you can blow/suck the opening on top and the bottom vents without taking it apart if it's a full sized shopvac. The smaller 1-2 gallon mini ones don't do so well.

My advice would be to unscrew the bottom plates. Then put the BLOWER side of a shopvac at the top and cup your hands around it to try to force anything in the fan blades out the bottom. You will see the small motor in the middle with a slit around the edges. The chaff will be forced out around that area. Lightly suck anything out from the bottom side without probing too much...

Put it all back together and turn it on for a few seconds with nothing on top and a few more bits of chaff should flush out and then you should be ok again. It does lose some heat with age but it shouldnt be that significant so it's probably clogging a little.
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Re: SR500 owners - get in here!

Postby Barrie » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:13 am

infoleather wrote:I can taste and distinguish the differences in coffee, but I would be very difficult to describe those tastes.


I, too, have difficulty making the distinctions that others taste (various fruits etc) but I am getting better at it after about 75 roasts (just a newbie). For example, I now recognize the fruity (don't yet know which) taste of Monkey Blend at Full City+ versus its more malty/chocolaty full-bodied taste at full-blown Vienna. The whole thing is like Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart's famous comment that he had difficulty defining obscenity but certainly knew it when he came across it." ;)
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